- 斫轮老手 zhuólúnlǎoshǒu old handan expert who is highly skilled in a craft or has a wealth of experience; literally an expert wheelwright
- 斲轮老手 zhuólúnlǎoshǒu old handan expert wheelwright; a person of great experience or consummate skill; an old hand. Derived from a story in the [[庄子|莊子|zhuang1 zi3]] about an elderly master wheelwright named Bian.